Large Hadron Collider Test Successful
Physicists around the world are celebrating today following the successful travel of a protons around the 17 mile tunnel of CERN, the largest particle collider.
After a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen at 10:36 a.m. (0836 GMT) indicating that the protons had traveled the full length of the US4$3.8 billion Large Hadron Collider.
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As long as they don’t cross the streams, I think we’ll be ok.
The same theory that predicts a black hole might form also predicts that it will evaporate almost instantaneously. If you believe one you also have to believe the other.
Either that or we need a new theory.
I think the danger they are more worried about is that the high energy particle stream will not be confined properly and will smash through the pipe it’s supposed to stay in and then crash into the tunnel wall and the rock the tunnel was dug from. It would be a huge disaster for science, but not much else. I think that’s why it’s in a tunnel underground in the first place.
I hope they find new dimensions.
Jerry:
the problem with that is (and granted I am not an astrophysicist) there is still a distinct possibility that a black hole could form under those conditions.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, who IS an astrophysicist said on some PBS show today that the odds of a black hole forming in october could be as high as 1 in 100. I don’t like that. He also has some interesting stuff to say about pulsars and quasars.
Several things:
1. Even the October test will be conducted at low energy levels, similar to previous experiments. The high energy stuff won’t happen until next year.
2. Even if a black hole was formed and we were sucked in, we might not know it. The event could have caused a split in our local spacetime; One branch was destroyed and another created (preserving the conservation of energy law) but we would have no awareness of the destroyed branch, much like looking back on a “Y” intersection.
3. In fact, we DID experience a black hole that destroyed the world and I can prove it:
Good news yall. We aren’t destroyed…yet.
IRE– wow, talk about an October Surprise!
We could still be f*cked.
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/_/2008/09/media_stupidity_in_physics_and_politics.php
Hell NO, Mumma! You were not too stupid….the scientists probably thought you were too beautiful and glamorous to give them the time of day. Probably reminded them of the girls they were too shy to talk to. That’s why you weren’t invited. They had no idea that a) you are fab-u-lous and b) that you’d come to their parties gladly and turn it into the events of the year 🙂
A black hole was formed, who the hell are you kidding..it’s called John McSame & Sarah Palins conscience and lots of folks are being sucked in..
on a side note, I wasn’t ever invited to any of those parties..probably too stupid to hang with that crowd 🙁
Maybe the black hole forms on 12/12/12?
David Brin, one of my fave sci-fi authors! I forgot about his novel Earth…
Also, keep in mind that the guy predicting the black hole didn’t say that he knew how long it would take for it to eat the planet. It could still be a while.
So, either we’ve been informed of our doom, or the doom-sayer is part of a conspiracy to up the post-print sales of David Brin’s novel Earth.
it is onthe border of France AND Switzerland? The two biggest wuss countries ever? Dang, I am suprised the Swiss took a side and the French didn’t give up.
I’ve been to a lot of parties thrown by scientists. Bio and biochem parties are the best, followed by chemistry parties. The physicists? A very distant third.
I would never say that scientists don’t know how to party! When I worked with a bunch of scientists – our holiday and staff parties were among the most entertaining. Certainly better than when I worked in a record store, surprising as that may seem. Those biochemists really know how to party!
Little known fact. When Fermi and the boys lit up the world’s first nuclear reactor in that Chicago basement they weren’t 100% sure they could stop the reaction which could have led to the entire planet basically melting.
And people say scientists don’t know how to party.
I’m all for not getting sucked into black holes! Funny thing: I just finished reading a book the other day where they were building one of these out in space so it could be reaaaalllly big, and they hadn’t run across intelligent life until then as they appeared out of the blue so they could destroy the collider as it apparently would have ended the universe…
It’s actually in France AND Switzerland – it sits astride the border.
Isn’t it in Switzerland? They won’t allow a black hole there. They kick out anything of color.
And no one got sucked into a massive black hole!
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